That is terrific singing, no doubt. Did Corelli transpose down the high C in Trovatore with Karajan in Salzburg in 1962, on that famous recording? It is said that he used to do this in live performance, I have the recording and am still having some difficulty telling! He certainly had more puff left on the third syllable of "all'armi" (+iiiiiiiii in Franco's case) than JK but it is still a part that JK is going to make his own if he should choose.
28 June 2013 at 04:29 PM
problem with my beloved Franco and his end note is that Azucena would have probably been long burned to ashes by Luna if she had to wait to be saved until he decided the singing about fighting was enough and it was time to really go and do it ;-))))))
28 June 2013 at 05:11 PM
It's not like fighting sooner made Manrico win...;)
28 June 2013 at 05:26 PM
Does anyone have a recording of Il Trovatore in Munich?
28 June 2013 at 09:55 PM
Corelli used to sing a B natural in the Pira in the theatre. What always amused me was, paradoxically, he would throw in an interpolated High D flat to crown the Trio which ends the first act --- this, early on in the opera, when he was unwarmed-up. But the Third Act Pira for an Italian tenor (or any tenor) is an highly exposed and potentially dangerous moment. In the old days the public whistled, hissed and booed at a cracked or missed high note, especially one as famous and anticipated as the conclusion of the Pira. Many of the greatest tenors (including Caruso) have transposed it down to B Natural or even B flat. Personally, I couldn’t care less which key as long as the high note is a good one. I believe Verdi himself was quoted as saying something similar about the final interpolated note of the Pira.
29 June 2013 at 12:22 AM
BBC Radio 3 has scheduled to broadcast the recording on thursday, 11th July, at 2pm. Hope it helps.
29 June 2013 at 02:44 AM
Marvellous exciting singing - a very virile Manrico - but would we expect anything less from Jonas? Wonderful and no one to touch him in his field right now..
Graham Thomas |
29 June 2013 at 03:53 PM
Has anyone noticed that Kaufmann sings Di Quela Pira a semi tone lower than Verdi wrote it?
29 June 2013 at 07:52 PM
Yes you are completely right; as I heard it first I feeled it was quite sombre; than I compared it with the piano score and: "Pira" begins with "e" but Jonas starts with "es" - the complete aria was transposed.
All ok - anyone does. But in the case of Kaufmann together with his baritonale timbre you do not even think that he will approach a "C". Kind regards Werther
30 June 2013 at 12:00 AM
Yes, Kaufmann, (baritonal timbre or not) sang the Pira down which is no sin in my book. I’m an admirer of Kaufmann and will be interested to see how his Manrico develops as he gains more stage experience with the role –-- this was very much a first effort. I look forward to him singing more Verdi roles, particularly Don Alvaro, which I believe he has announced for München in December.
Yes, the Pira is written in the key of C but there is NO high C written at the end. Verdi wrote a G. It has become “traditional” for tenors to interpolate an (hopefully) exciting High C at the end, and now the public expects it. Many think it’s in the score which it is not. Most tenors transpose the whole thing down to B Natural or B flat in the theatre but might sing it in C in the recording studio.
Years ago there was a CD, sort of a party record, with 34 different Piras featuring some of the greatest historical names from the acoustic and electrical eras (Tamagno, Caruso, Martinelli, Pertile, Tauber, Lauri-Volpi, Björling, Gigli, etc.). 17 sing the High C, 13 sing it in B and 4 in B flat.
30 June 2013 at 01:21 AM
Interesting that no one has mentioned Bjorling's Manrico -- documented from the studio and in about five performances. He too, occasionally transposed the stretta.
Der Jonas gave quite a wonderful Ah, si ben mio, too, complete with the trills that no one has equalled since Bjorling's Covent Garden debut in 1939 (attended by Gigli). Trovatore is truly an opera for great singers.
Not all tenors have great high C's. Kaufmann has the top C, evidenced in his Met Faust's. But sometimes it just works better overall for that slightly lower version. How much great music making we would miss if transpositions were unaccepted. Bravo Jonas (and Franco and Jussi, and many others)! I applaud him for the vast repertoire he is willing to sing. But I really love what he does for Wagner.
Back to the Trovatore "Pira" -- Maybe it is time for a 21st century party CD of current and recent tenors and their versions? Whoops-I guess You Tube already has it, at least in individual performances.
10 July 2013 at 05:15 AM
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